Only Donald Trump could take the focus off the news off two hurricanes but he did with his order to rescind DACA and also to cut a deal on Harvey aid and the debt ceiling with his new besties, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. Evil Lobbyist (actually, great guy) Liam Donovan joins the show to talk to Neal and Jay about all of that and of course, the important question of who is better between The Beatles and The Rolling Stones.

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